Cyhist Jan 01 1997 A
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:06:06 -0500
Reply-To: jbullock@pipeline.com
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From: James Bullock <jbullock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: CM> Database history
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David A. Mindell wrote:
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>Does anyone have specific experience with the early relational database projects in the 60's and 70s? This is in addition to the excellent System R reunion transcript on the web, which has been previously mentioned in this list. I'm particularly interested in government funding (or lack thereof), and how people transferred knowledge and code from university-based research to private companies.
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>David A. Mindell
>mindell@mit.edu
As you probably know the original Ingres, written at Berkeley by Stonebreaker & co. was grant funded. The code was placed in the public domain, along with a number of papers, collected into one volume "The Ingres Papers" now out of print
Details on transfer of that knowledge could be tracked down from those papers.
Ongoing narrative . . .
After founding Relational Technology Inc. (later Ingres Inc. then ASK/Ingres, finally part of CA) Stonebreaker went on to the Postgres (OO) project with similar funding and approach. Postgres is available public-domain, for many platforms, including Linux.
Stonebreaker went on to Illustra to commercialize the ideas, and is not part of Informix, Inc. where the Illustra engine is encorporated into the Informix "Universal Server" (whatever that means) as "datablades".
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Reply-To: jbullock@pipeline.com
Sender: "CYHIST Community Memory: Discussion list on the History of
Cyberspace" <CYHIST@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>
From: James Bullock <jbullock@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: CM> Database history
______________________________________________________________________
Community Memory: Discussion List on the History of Cyberspace ______________________________________________________________________
David A. Mindell wrote:
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>______________________________________________________________________
>Community Memory: Discussion List on the History of Cyberspace ______________________________________________________________________
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>Does anyone have specific experience with the early relational database projects in the 60's and 70s? This is in addition to the excellent System R reunion transcript on the web, which has been previously mentioned in this list. I'm particularly interested in government funding (or lack thereof), and how people transferred knowledge and code from university-based research to private companies.
>
>David A. Mindell
>mindell@mit.edu
As you probably know the original Ingres, written at Berkeley by Stonebreaker & co. was grant funded. The code was placed in the public domain, along with a number of papers, collected into one volume "The Ingres Papers" now out of print
Details on transfer of that knowledge could be tracked down from those papers.
Ongoing narrative . . .
After founding Relational Technology Inc. (later Ingres Inc. then ASK/Ingres, finally part of CA) Stonebreaker went on to the Postgres (OO) project with similar funding and approach. Postgres is available public-domain, for many platforms, including Linux.
Stonebreaker went on to Illustra to commercialize the ideas, and is not part of Informix, Inc. where the Illustra engine is encorporated into the Informix "Universal Server" (whatever that means) as "datablades".
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