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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:06:27 -0800
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From: John Clark <john_c@CERF.NET>
Subject: Re: Thinking and Intelligence and Computers (was:I got a chill)
In-Reply-To: <199612242209.OAA22639@nic.cerf.net>
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Community Memory: Discussion List on the History of Cyberspace ______________________________________________________________________
Webster defines think (among other things) as "implying the entrance of an idea into one's mind", and intelligent as "success in coping w/new situations and solving problems". My computer is about as about as capable in this regard as a block of plywood, so i generally refer to it as lacking intelligence. It is quite good, however, at reading back stored instructions that *i* give to it. :-)
>From my college days... Have you tried Descartes?
i am actually something of a cultural void compared to most of the members of this group, perhaps they have some suggestions.
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, John Ahlstrom wrote:
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>John Clark wrote:
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>Michael, while it may be romantic to speak so of chess playing algorithms, but i can tell you from personal experience they are *not* intelligent in any way. All big iron brings to the party is the kind of horsepower necessary to drive the computational horizon of the algorithm out far enough to give a genius like Gary Kasparov a hard time. i don't know what Gary Kasparov intended in his comment, but i have a hard time giving todays computers the ability to think.
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>Can someone send me some URLs or book titles where I can get useful definitions of "think" and "intelligent" that will let me think about this in an intelligent way?
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>Thanks
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>John Ahlstrom
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From: John Clark <john_c@CERF.NET>
Subject: Re: Thinking and Intelligence and Computers (was:I got a chill)
In-Reply-To: <199612242209.OAA22639@nic.cerf.net>
______________________________________________________________________
Community Memory: Discussion List on the History of Cyberspace ______________________________________________________________________
Webster defines think (among other things) as "implying the entrance of an idea into one's mind", and intelligent as "success in coping w/new situations and solving problems". My computer is about as about as capable in this regard as a block of plywood, so i generally refer to it as lacking intelligence. It is quite good, however, at reading back stored instructions that *i* give to it. :-)
>From my college days... Have you tried Descartes?
i am actually something of a cultural void compared to most of the members of this group, perhaps they have some suggestions.
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996, John Ahlstrom wrote:
>______________________________________________________________________
>Community Memory: Discussion List on the History of Cyberspace ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
>John Clark wrote:
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>Michael, while it may be romantic to speak so of chess playing algorithms, but i can tell you from personal experience they are *not* intelligent in any way. All big iron brings to the party is the kind of horsepower necessary to drive the computational horizon of the algorithm out far enough to give a genius like Gary Kasparov a hard time. i don't know what Gary Kasparov intended in his comment, but i have a hard time giving todays computers the ability to think.
>
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>Can someone send me some URLs or book titles where I can get useful definitions of "think" and "intelligent" that will let me think about this in an intelligent way?
>
>Thanks
>
>John Ahlstrom
>
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